Comments for White Washed Feminists http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:22:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ Comment on Christina, the Great Martyr of Tyre by Heather http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/christina-the-great-martyr-of-tyre/#comment-25269 Heather Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:22:04 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=761#comment-25269 Nice. :) Nice. :)

]]> Comment on Saint Olympias the Deaconess by Cally Tyrol http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/saint-olympias-the-deaconess/#comment-25209 Cally Tyrol Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:58:42 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-25209 Definitely not on the Bayly's radar... and the thing is, St. Olympias was one of MANY deaconesses during her time. Not sure why that surprised me. Early Christians didn't have the same kind of gender hang-ups that have popped up in the West. I don't doubt that the majority of these Christian women were wives and mothers. There are many Saints who did just that. But there are even MORE female Saints who didn't do that. They were evangelists, missionaries, martyrs, deaconesses, prophetesses (such as Anna in the Temple). I'm not trying to say these women were BETTER than their domestic sisters. But what I am saying is that we should not ignore their contribution to the spread of Christianity or its continued survival simply because they are WOMEN. And now I'm done preaching to the choir :-) Definitely not on the Bayly’s radar… and the thing is, St. Olympias was one of MANY deaconesses during her time. Not sure why that surprised me. Early Christians didn’t have the same kind of gender hang-ups that have popped up in the West. I don’t doubt that the majority of these Christian women were wives and mothers. There are many Saints who did just that. But there are even MORE female Saints who didn’t do that. They were evangelists, missionaries, martyrs, deaconesses, prophetesses (such as Anna in the Temple).

I’m not trying to say these women were BETTER than their domestic sisters. But what I am saying is that we should not ignore their contribution to the spread of Christianity or its continued survival simply because they are WOMEN.

And now I’m done preaching to the choir :-)

]]> Comment on Saint Olympias the Deaconess by Lynn http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/saint-olympias-the-deaconess/#comment-25148 Lynn Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:05:12 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=765#comment-25148 I've read bits and snatches about her on the internet, from various sites, including quotations of Chrysostom's letters to her while he was banished. It is obvious she was a deacon to the church of her day, and was appointed as such by the elders of that day. It is also plain that her service included both male and female recipients of her charities, and that she was consulted by male leaders in the church for advice. It's obvious that by and large (with some pastoral oversight when she overdid it), she determined who the recipients of her charity and hospitality would be. She wouldn't fit very well in the Baylys' churches, would she? ;-) I’ve read bits and snatches about her on the internet, from various sites, including quotations of Chrysostom’s letters to her while he was banished.

It is obvious she was a deacon to the church of her day, and was appointed as such by the elders of that day. It is also plain that her service included both male and female recipients of her charities, and that she was consulted by male leaders in the church for advice.

It’s obvious that by and large (with some pastoral oversight when she overdid it), she determined who the recipients of her charity and hospitality would be.

She wouldn’t fit very well in the Baylys’ churches, would she? ;-)

]]> Comment on The Mother of God by Cally Tyrol http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/the-mother-of-god/#comment-24833 Cally Tyrol Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:40:22 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=744#comment-24833 Stella, thanks for your comment and for the link you provided. I'm going to leave it up, but I'm not going to provide an answer for the points in the article. I hope that's okay. People are free to believe as they are convinced in their own minds. I would just humbly suggest reading this article on Mary's Ever-Virginity, a doctrine held by even the fathers of the Protestant tradition: http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/Theotokos#Ever-Virginity This article gives a good answer to the points brought up in the link you provided- especially the answers from Scripture. Peace of Christ to you, Cally Stella, thanks for your comment and for the link you provided. I’m going to leave it up, but I’m not going to provide an answer for the points in the article. I hope that’s okay. People are free to believe as they are convinced in their own minds. I would just humbly suggest reading this article on Mary’s Ever-Virginity, a doctrine held by even the fathers of the Protestant tradition:

http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/Theotokos#Ever-Virginity

This article gives a good answer to the points brought up in the link you provided- especially the answers from Scripture. Peace of Christ to you,

Cally

]]> Comment on The Mother of God by Stella http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/the-mother-of-god/#comment-24832 Stella Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:28:00 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=744#comment-24832 Here's a different take with regard to the one-child argument. http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-siblings.html Here’s a different take with regard to the one-child argument.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-siblings.html

]]> Comment on Quivering Daughters Interview! by aj http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/quivering-daughters-interview/#comment-24788 aj Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:11:19 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=802#comment-24788 thanks for this link and reference to the book...i am going to get it.. thanks for this link and reference to the book…i am going to get it..

]]> Comment on Not Your Mama’s Handmaiden by Cally Tyrol http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/not-your-mamas-handmaiden/#comment-24727 Cally Tyrol Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:26:52 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=736#comment-24727 St. Perpetua has been on my mind a lot lately. I think I'll put her up today. St. Perpetua has been on my mind a lot lately. I think I’ll put her up today.

]]> Comment on Not Your Mama’s Handmaiden by Heather http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/not-your-mamas-handmaiden/#comment-24679 Heather Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:41:57 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=736#comment-24679 Cally, I'm *so* excited for this blog and it's new direction! I love it!! I can't wait for you to do St. Mary of Egypt and St. Catherine and my all-time favorite, St. Perpetua! :) Cally,

I’m *so* excited for this blog and it’s new direction! I love it!! I can’t wait for you to do St. Mary of Egypt and St. Catherine and my all-time favorite, St. Perpetua! :)

]]> Comment on Macrina the Righteous, Sister of St. Basil by Cally Tyrol http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/macrina-the-righteous-sister-of-st-basil/#comment-24558 Cally Tyrol Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:38:14 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=757#comment-24558 Elizabeth, I don't know how we missed your blog the last time we did a round with the patrios. But I LOVE IT! Your story is incredibly inspiring and you are brutally honest, which is something I appreciate a good deal. I hope to do some more "non-Saintly" writing here. I'm trying not to get too sucked in though :-) BTW- I live in Orange County too! Its fun to read your posts about life down here... and when you mentioned Calvary Chapel, I had to chuckle. I used to go to Big Calvary back in the day. I don't think there's a single Christian living in Orange County who hasn't been through Papa Chuck's church at some point or another. Elizabeth, I don’t know how we missed your blog the last time we did a round with the patrios. But I LOVE IT! Your story is incredibly inspiring and you are brutally honest, which is something I appreciate a good deal. I hope to do some more “non-Saintly” writing here. I’m trying not to get too sucked in though :-)

BTW- I live in Orange County too! Its fun to read your posts about life down here… and when you mentioned Calvary Chapel, I had to chuckle. I used to go to Big Calvary back in the day. I don’t think there’s a single Christian living in Orange County who hasn’t been through Papa Chuck’s church at some point or another.

]]> Comment on Macrina the Righteous, Sister of St. Basil by Elizabeth Esther http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/macrina-the-righteous-sister-of-st-basil/#comment-24542 Elizabeth Esther Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:11:32 +0000 http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com/?p=757#comment-24542 FINALLY! Sheesh I've been waiting forever for you to start writing again. It's been a lonely world out here trying to deconstruct the hurtful, wrong teachings of patriarchy! :) Wow. Orthodox Church! Saaaa-weeeeet! Don't you just love how the RCC and Orthodox Church celebrate and embrace women--in ALL their varying capacities and gifts? It has been eye opening to me, too. Anyway, please keep writing! I've missed you! FINALLY! Sheesh I’ve been waiting forever for you to start writing again. It’s been a lonely world out here trying to deconstruct the hurtful, wrong teachings of patriarchy! :) Wow. Orthodox Church! Saaaa-weeeeet! Don’t you just love how the RCC and Orthodox Church celebrate and embrace women–in ALL their varying capacities and gifts? It has been eye opening to me, too. Anyway, please keep writing! I’ve missed you!

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